Critical Comments on the BC/BS-TEC report
and HCFA's Medical-Surgical Panel Meeting

 

By John D. Perry, PhD

 

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In the first month following HCFA's Medical-Surgical Panel Public Hearings on April 12-13, 2000, attention was focused on the various procedural irregularities that surrounded the formal process.  Everyone was stunned by the outcome, and we waited to see the promised protest of the Consumer Representative, Ms. Greenberger.  Eventually a large number of individuals and professional organizations submitted additional protest letters as well, including the American Medical Association, which had not entered the process in April.

 

On May 1st I attended a poster presentation by Dr. Bary Berghmans at the AUA meeting in Atlanta, and for the first time got a grasp on the conceptual confusion ("biofeedback is a form of physical therapy") that underlies the BC/BS TEC report (#1).  Soon thereafter HCFA published the Executive Committee's March 1st transcripts and reports, and the basis for the Med-Surg Panel's activities finally became clear.  Also clear was that the EC recommendations were honored more in the breach than the promise.  (See #2-5).  In #6 we point out that Burton et al (1988) didn't qualify, since he didn't do any PME! (a TEC oversight.)  In #7 we discuss levels of evidence and the controversy with the EC.  #8 concerns the claim that there were "no relevant outcomes" in two studies.  In #9 we take issue with TEC's claims of bias, and also point out that Franke (2000) also did not have a PME-alone control group - another TEC error.  Finally, in #10 we introduce three new forms of bias that apply to behavioral interventions such as biofeedback, and fault the TEC heros on all three forms of bias. 

 

 

Contents

1. Berghmans' EGG and Conceptual Confusion (5/11/00)

2. What the EC recommended to Panels (5/26/00)

3. Dr. Landy's "report" (5/26/00)

4. Dr. Zendle's "report" (5/26/00)

5. The slide they asked to see (5/27/00)

6. Another BC/BS error (Burton & Burgio) (5/30/00)

       Burton's Urge patients didn't get PME Alone!

7. What happened to the AHCPR Guidelines? (5/31/00)

8. No relevant outcomes?  (5/31/00)

9. TEC's three forms of bias (6/1/00)

     Franke didn't have a PME alone control group

10. Three additional forms of bias (6/4/00)

 

 


1. Berghmans' Egg and Conceptual Confusion (5/11/00)

 

Bary Berghmans presented a poster at the AUA convention in Atlanta last week that was essentially a re-hash of his February 2000 paper on Biofeedback and Urge Urinary Incontinence. 

 

But there was one important difference -- as a poster presentation he included a graphic that was not part of that BJU paper.  The graphic showed his concept of "biofeedback", and explains the conceptual confusion that was included in the Monaco Report, and subsequently became the cornerstone of the BC/BS TEC report on Biofeedback.

 

The key is Berghmans' drawing of the relationship between "physical therapy" and "biofeedback".

 

Picture, if you will, an egg, with a yoke.  The entire egg is labeled "physical therapy", while the yoke is labeled "biofeedback". 

 

In Berghmans' view, everything that is called "biofeedback" is a sub-set of "physical therapy".  There is no part of biofeedback that isn't a "physical therapy" activity.  Thus Berghmans set out to "assess the efficacy of *physical therapies* for first-line use in the treatment of urge urinary incontinence..." (Feb.  2000 abstract, emphasis added).

 

And, as you know, he concludes that there are "too few studies to evaluate the effects of PFM exercise with or without biofeedback...".  That's notwithstanding that the very best study, in terms of methodological criteria defined by Berghmans, is Burgio's 1998 JAMA study, which found that biofeedback was vastly superior to drugs or to placebo. 

 

Burgio's problem is that, in spite of her study being the largest study ever done of Urge Incontinence, it is only ONE good study, and in Berghmans' so-call evidence-based model you have to have three high-quality studies to "prove"

a point. 

 

[In Berghmans' model, you need at least an n of 50; Burgio had nearly 200.  In other words, if the Burgio authors had published their results in three groups of over 65 subjects each, we would have "three high quality studies" and biofeedback would be acknowledged as superior to PME alone.  If that isn't arbitrary, I don't know what is.] Interestingly enough, in the Berghmans graphic the relationship between "physical therapies" and "electrical stimulation" are shown as two only partially overlapping circles.  In other words, there are activities that are uniquely electrical stimulation, there are activities that are uniquely physical therapy, and there are activities that are part of both electrical stimulation and part of physical therapy.  I don't have any problem with that.

 

But what I don't understand is Berghman's instance that the entire world of biofeedback can be described as a circle WITHIN the sphere of Physical Therapy. 

 

It is this very assumption that leads Monaco and the BC/BS TEC report to assume that biofeedback can be considered an "additive" to physical therapy, and one can legitimately investigate the value of this additive by comparison to physical therapy (PME) that does NOT include the additive, biofeedback. 

 

But if biofeedback is not merely a branch of physical therapy, the entire process unravels.  Suppose that biofeedback includes elements or activities that are not properly or commonly considered aspects of "physical exercise", and are not provided by physical therapists?  The entire PME with Biofeedback vs. PME Alone comparison collapses.

 

And there is evidence that this is so.  Ironically, it comes from one of Berghmans' own frequent collaborators, Norwegian physiotherapist Prof. Kari Bo.  Bo argues that biofeedback therapy for incontinence cannot work by "strengthening pelvic muscles" because biofeedback produces results in too quick a time to be explained by changes in muscle physiology as a result of exercise.  And, since EMG readings go up at a much faster rate than can be explained by what is known about exercise in general sports medicine, Bo concludes, quite mistakenly, that EMG scores are NOT a reliable indicator of pelvic muscle strength.  She considers them "invalid". 

 

There is, of course, another explanation, which is already widely understood within the field of biofeedback, if not in physical therapy.  That is that what the EMG device is measuring is the "effective" strength of the muscles; that is, the combination of basic muscle physiology and vastly improved central nervous system function resulting from biofeedback training.

 

[This point is drawn from my essay "Are we really 'strengthening muscles' down there?" in the March, 2000 issue of California Biofeedback, Jeff Cram, editor.] It is the combination of improved CNS functioning and slight improvements in muscle physiology that gives "biofeedback" the competitive edge over plain pelvic muscle exercise (physical therapy) alone. 

 

Improvement in CNS functioning can be readily shown, based on Bo's argument, by increases in measured EMG Pelvic Muscle Strength that are TOO rapid to be accounted for by exercise physiology alone.  If the EMG goes up by 50% in seven days, and exercise can only account for (say) a 5% increase in seven days, then the other 45% clearly comes from improved CNS functioning.

 

Improvements of 30-100% in the first few weeks of biofeedback training are not uncommon, especially after the first or second week of home biofeedback training.

 

Publications promoting PMEs alone, such as those of the National Association For Continence, are quite consistent in stating that patients must do daily PMEs for "several months" before they will notice significant improvement.  But with biofeedback results are obtained in a matter of a few weeks.  Why?

 

Even Berghmans noted "the positive trend in speed of improvement with the addition of biofeedback (1998, p.  188)". 

 

Ceresoli 1993, for example, compared six weeks of biofeedback with 13 weeks of plain PMEs.  The biofeedback group was insignificantly a tad better than the plain group.  (And Ceresoli used an inferior form of biofeedback -- perineal measurements rather than vaginal feedback, further depressing the biofeedback results.) 

 

Further support for the notion that biofeedback adds CNS improvements that are not part of plain PME alone come from comparison with the results of electrical stimulation studies. 

 

When the muscle is only *passively* exercised, as in electrical stimulation (whether magnetically coupled or directly coupled), the results (1) take longer, more like plain PMEs, and (2) are not as dramatic, as biofeedback results. 

 

The latest Neotonus results, for instance, show only a 25% reduction in pad weights (20 -> 15 grm.) In another such study, leaks per day declined only 48%.  (1999 AUA paper).  Sand et al (1995) reported a 29% reduction in leakage reports after 14 weeks of stim therapy.  In other stim studies passive treatment required 3.5 months (Bergman and Eriksen, 1986) to "4 to 19 months" (Fall et al, 1977) to obtain good improvements. 

 

The average training time in our biofeedback program was 4.3 visits over 8 weeks; since patients were required to train until they had been "dry" (without any leaks) for 30 days, the average time to dry was 4 weeks.  [See http://www.incontinet.com/effective.htm for details.] The role of CNS enhancement in the treatment of incontinence is already the topic of anecdotal reports on the internet, where several researchers have reported success using EEG biofeedback alone for incontinence.  In these reports, improvement in CNS function alone, not muscle exercise, was used to treat incontinence.

 

In a panel discussion at the AAPB Convention in Denver last month, two clinicians (Linda Kirk and Louise Marks) reported on difficult cases treated with a combination of EMG pelvic muscle biofeedback AND EEG biofeedback (now called "neurofeedback"). 

 

There is an interesting parallel tradition that supports the role of CNS enhancement in the treatment of incontinence.  The work of Moshe Feldenchrist involves a "mental rehearsal" method that is claimed to be as effective as physical exercise at certain tasks.  It provides an interesting parallel development to biofeedback.

 

So we return to the question; is biofeedback a sub-category of physical therapy?  It is true, to be sure, that biofeedback is sometimes a "modality" that is used by physical therapists, just like hot packs and ultrasound. 

 

Consider an analogy: If physical therapists pray with and for their patients, does that make "prayer" a form of physical therapy?  Of course not. 

 

In other words, just because physical therapists sometimes do it doesn't make biofeedback a form of PT.  Like religion, biofeedback exists outside the realm of PT.  Berghmans' egg model for the relationship is simply wrong.  Biofeedback should be described, like electrical stimulation, as a partly overlapping but distinct separate circle of activity.

 

 

The HCFA-TEC presentation focused on the issue of whether ADDING biofeedback to PME resulted in increased benefit.  They repeated the common mistake of thinking of biofeedback as a technique ADDED TO "plain pelvic muscle exercises". 

 

[Unfortunately, the titles of important papers by both Burgio and Tries reinforce this ahistorical conception of "PMEs 'enhanced' by biofeedback".] The TEC report says:

 

"PMEs are the main component of treatment.

PMEs derive from the Kegel exercises developed in the 1940s and 1950s." 

 

But that is simply FALSE.  The "Kegel exercises" were developed by nurses in the 1970s and 1980s when Arnold Kegel's perineometer (the first biofeedback device) became commercially unavailable.  [See the historical essay "The Bastardization of Kegel's Exercises" at http://www.incontinet.com/articles/art_urin/bastard.htm] Originally, "biofeedback" was the main component of treatment developed by Kegel in the late 1940s and 1950s.  (The term "biofeedback" wasn't coined until the late 1960s, but the process Kegel used has long been recognized as the first example of biofeedback).  [See http://www.incontinet.com/articles/art_urin/20yearbf.htm] Kegel NEVER advocated the use of the non-biofeedback exercises that were only developed after his death.

 

Therefore, an historically-correct formulation would address the question of whether SUBTRACTING biofeedback (including daily home training with a biofeedback device) from Kegel's Program DECREASED the effectiveness of it. 

 

Unfortunately, the highly-touted research projects of Berghmans and Burns DO NOT address that question, since they did NOT use a biofeedback program like Kegel's.  Kegel required the daily at-home use of a biofeedback device.  (Berghmans and Burns did not).  Kegel understood that patients learn at different rates, and did not use of fixed number of training sessions.  (Berghmans and Burns did.) 

 

The only study that did follow the Kegel model was Shepherd, Montgomery and Anderson (1983) which found an 83% symptom reduction rate for biofeedback compared with a 25% rate for plain PMEs.  But this study is dismissed by TEC on the grounds that they did not perform a test of statistical significance!  [Sorry, but back in 1983 when you got clear-cut results like 83% vs. 25% no one EVER thought it was necessary to run stats.  The computer revolution didn't come until 1984, when the MAC was introduced!  Hello?] Is "biofeedback" a sub-class of physical therapies"?  The biofeedback society (AAPB) doesn't think so.

While there are many prominent PTs who use biofeedback (Susan Middaugh and Stephen Wolfe come quickly to mind), physical therapists have always been a minority in the biofeedback world.

 

The most prominent group in biofeedback is psychologists -- the same people who developed behavior modification and behavioral medicine.  Three quarters of the experts in the classic text "Biofeedback", edited by Mark Schwartz, are psychologists.  Physical therapy is an important application of biofeedback, but biofeedback is not a branch of physical therapy.

 

When Berghmans et al, and BC/BS assume that biofeedback is a special form of physical therapy, they make a conceptual mistake that produces faulty questions, faulty comparisons, and misleading conclusions. 

 

 


2.  What the EC Recommended to Panels

 

I recently recommended that listmembers review the recently-published "Discussion Paper" at http://www.hcfa.gov/quality/8b1-i6.htm  as well as the transcript of the 3/1/00 MCAC Executive Committee ("next" button) and the "Interim Recommendations" ("next" again) that followed the meeting.  Finally I took my own advice, and here is the result of a more careful reading.

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The Working Group Report of 2//21/00 states clearly that the effectiveness of a treatment should be evaluated "relative to other items or services" (p.  3) but this was not done in the case of biofeedback, which was only compared to physical therapy (leading to the exclusion of the Burgio 1998 study).

 

The report also states, with respect to known IDEAL levels of evidence: "This level of evidence will likely be unavailable for many of the interventions that the MCAC panels will evaluate."  It further states that "in some cases the panel will determine that observational evidence is sufficient to draw conclusions about effectiveness.(p.  4)"

 

In the "Interim Recommendations", the same point is stated this way:

 

"However in many cases the panel will determine that observational evidence is sufficient to draw conclusions about effectiveness."

 

Yet the April 12-13 panel was told that ONLY RCT trials could be considered, and in the case of biofeedback, only trials within physical therapy models could be evaluated.  But there is no basis in the discussion paper for the rigid stand that HCFA staff took in evaluating incontinence evidence.

 

Likewise, the Interim Report appears fully aware of the complexities of non-pharmacological research when they say:

 

"For example, the outcomes of a complex surgical procedure can depend heavily on the skills of the surgeons and other staff caring for the patient.  "

 

The AAPB's testimony to HCFA in January discussed at some length the ways in which surgery and behavioral treatments were similar, and both differ from drug research.  For instance, clinician skill is critical in surgery and biofeedback, while relatively or completely unimportant in electrical stimulation and pharmacology studies.  (http://www.incontinet.com/isestimadrug.htm)

HCFA and TEC apparently did not agree.

 

The Interim Report makes specific recommendations for evidence review.  It states:

 

"The panel chair should assign at least two panel members to work closely with the authors of the evidence reports.  The rationale for this recommendation is to ensure that the evidence report covers a sufficient scope of studies, that it considers relevant alternative interventions, and that it will be useful to the panels in other respects. The panel should include some people who have acquired expertise in the topic of a coverage recommendation"

 

There is no indication that the first part was done.

 

As far as the record goes, only HCFA staff worked with the TEC report staff.  (See below for the second part.)

 

The Interim Recommendations also state:

 

"In addition, the Executive Committee recommends that the panel chair assign two primary reviewers for each topic.  These reviewers will not be the individuals who assist in the development of the evidence report; they should be new to the topic.  They will evaluate the evidence independently of one another.  Each will write a 1-2-page report ..."

 

Dr.  Garber, panel chair, explained that this was a new process that was only "partially" implemented for the incontinence panel:

 

10 There is an extensive review process

11 that the executive committee asked for, which we

12 have implemented partially for this panel meeting,

13 not entirely.  The review process that they

14 recommended includes both internal and external

15 review, and I believe that we have come very close

16 to meeting their requests for the internal review.

17 And we have two panel members, Dr. Lisa Landy and

18 Dr.  Les Zendle, who are essentially the internal

19 reviewers from the panel of the topic at hand.

 

Others will be less enthusiastic about how well the panel followed the recommendations.  The main problem was that no one in the public had heard of the "Interim Recommendations" until the hearing was already underway, so they were not aware of what was happening.  [The Interim Recommendations were not published on the HCFA website until a week AFTER the hearings.] Dr. Zendle, far from presenting a formal 1-2 page report, made a few almost casual remarks at the conclusion of the BCBS presentation.  But it appears that he spoke out of turn, because the agenda had listed "open committee deliberation" to follow the Simon and Lefevre presentations.

 

He assumed it was his turn next.  But after his remarks, which were generally in full support of the TEC report, Chairman Garber said:

 

1 DR.  GARBER:  Thank you.  Before we

2 proceed with other questions and comments from

3 panelists, I think Ken Simon had a few other things

4 to add to finish off the HCFA presentation.

 

The program did not indicate that Simon would speak twice.  Only after Simon finished the HCFA staff presentation, Garber said that the open committee discussion would begin, and said:

 

6 As I mentioned at the outset, two panel

7 members were designated as reviewers, Les Zendle is

8 one of them, Lisa Landy is the other.  Les, I

9 assume that was your opening statement.  And I

10 would like to ask Lisa to speak before we open up

11 to the entire panel to ask questions and make

12 comments.

 

It is important to note that neither Zendle nor Landy were listed on the printed program, so the audience was not aware of the formal nature of their "reviews".

 

Dr. Zendle is a "geriatric medicine specialist" currently working for Kaiser Permanente.  He did not claim to have ever worked with biofeedback or electrical stimulation.

 

Dr. Landy, on the other hand, did meet the Interim Recommendations criteria as expert in the topic at hand.  She is a urogenecologist who uses these techniques in her work.  She was not a member of the med-surg panel, but was imported for this one hearing, apparently to have at least one panel member who actually knew something about biofeedback.

 

Landy's testimony is worth reading in its own right, but may be best summarized by noting that (1) she was the only panel member with professional experience in the subject, and (2) she was the only panel member to vote in the affirmative (and against BCBS-TEC) on both biofeedback and electrical stimulation reports.

 

That tells you something!

 

None of the panel members who voted against these modalities claimed to have any professional (or personal) knowledge of them.

 

(For that matter, none of the "experts" at BlueCross/ BlueShield claimed any such experience, either.)

 

[Note: Diane Smith, RN, a well known expert on biofeedback and electrical stimulation, was a "guest" on the panel, but she was not allowed to vote.] The Interim Recommendations also contain a provision for expert opinion prior to the public hearing; The panel...

 

"should ask independent experts to comment upon the evidence report in advance of panel meetings.  The opinion of experts is the best way to assure everyone, the public and the panel, that the evidence report is complete and fair.  ....The Executive Committee envisions that the panel will choose a small number of expert reviewers (perhaps no more than six)...A reviewer may ask the panel's industry representative to obtain additional information from industry sources.

 

Clearly, NONE of these recommendations were followed.

 

Experts in the field of Biofeedback and Electrical Stimulation were never consulted prior to the hearing.

 

In fact, the BCBS-TEC report's existence was not even made public until some two weeks before the hearing.  There is no systematic review by any independent professionals with any clinical experience in either field, as recommended, and therefore, no expert opinion to be made part of the public hearing PRIOR to the panel's deliberations.

 

In spite of the short notice, many biofeedback and electrical stimulation experts did in fact review the TEC reports, and they were universal in condemning them as inadequate and misleading.  In the end, their hands-on testimony was disregarded in favor of the arm-chair research of "literature reviewers" employed by BlueCross/BlueShield.

 

There is only one established expert group concerned with biofeedback, the Association for Applied Psychophysiology and Biofeedback, and in spite of frequent communications, these experts were not informed of the existence of the TEC reports until a few days before their content was made public, just prior to the hearings.  The AAPB experts did submit eight separate documents pertaining to the subject of incontinence research, but this expert opinion was NEVER distributed to the Panel members, in clear violation of both the letter and the spirit of the Interim Report.

 

We can only hope that the Executive Committee will call HCFA staff on this blatant violation of their recommendations.

 

On the other hand, the EC had been warned that their role was only advisory; the HCFA preamble to the Discussion Paper (2/21/00) stated:

 

"When the panels offer comments to HCFA about medical evidence, both HCFA and the public should understand the panels’ basis for making those judgments.  Those standards are the MCAC’s; we do not take them to be criteria or processes binding to HCFA."

 

Obviously they meant it.

 

 


3. Dr. Landy's Testimony

 

Below is the testimony of Dr.  Lisa Landy, the only voting member of the Med-Surg Panel who had ANY actual professional experience with biofeedback and electrical stimulation.  She was acting in the role of "official reviewer" of the TEC report for the panel, although at the time the meaning of this role wasn't clear.

 

Dr.  Landy was not a 'regular' member of the med- surg panel, but was brought in for this one hearing because NONE of the regular panel members had ANY experience with biofeedback or stim. 

 

Dr.  Landy was the only panel member to vote in favor of both biofeedback and electrical stimulation at the hearing.  Being experienced, she felt that the evidence was compelling enough. 

 

Following Dr.  Landy's comments, at page 193, is the only humorous event in the whole two days.

 

Triggered by one of Landy's remarks, Dr.  Epstein asked me to elaborate on one of my slides in "two minutes".  When he clarified his request, he changed it to "five minutes", whereupon the Chairman interjected "Not five minutes though.

Let's keep this brief.", which brought a round of laughter from the panel.  The stenographer did not record the laughter.

 

As I remember it, that was the ONLY laughter in two full days.

 

It is noteworthy that although Dr. Epstein voted with the male majority against biofeedback on the first day of the hearings (a few minutes after the excerpted part), on the second day he abstained on the electrical stimulation vote.

 

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20 DR.  LANDY:  Yeah.  I had some opening

21 remarks.  Some of them are kind of reiterating

22 what's been said already today, but I kind of want

23 to summarize things.

24 The first one is, the task set before us

25 is a very specific one, and it's to answer a series

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1 of efficacy and additional benefit.  The MCAC

2 committee has helped us and set forth guidelines

3 for us as panel members specifically to follow, and

4 these guidelines were set up to assess new

5 technologies and compare them to established

6 practices.  And we're to use evidence based

7 medicine as the foundation for our decisions.

8 And as we can see from today's

9 presentations, multiple presentations, that there

10 are several levels of evidence that we can consider

11 and weigh appropriately when we answer these

12 questions.  We've heard today from representatives

13 of multiple professional societies and specialty

14 organizations presenting their consensus statements

15 regarding efficacy of this behavioral

16 intervention.

17 The 1998 [sic: 1988] NIH consensus statement

18 recognized the efficacy of behavioral intervention

19 and specifically biofeedback.  There are guidelines

20 of practice that we all use when we practice in

21 this field based from the AHCPR guidelines which

22 recommend the use of behavioral interventions,

23 including biofeedback, as first line therapy.  We

24 also heard presentations of a technology assessment

25 which confirmed biofeedback efficacy, and then

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1 focused on answering the question of whether there

2 is additional benefit achieved from biofeedback

3 over PME alone.

4 I would like to summarize some of these

5 key points that come out of today's presentations

6 before we go into our discussion, and use this as a

7 launching point for our deliberation.  One of the

8 points is that biofeedback is not a new technology

9 and that the guidelines that were set up to do is

10 to compare to established practice.  Biofeedback is

11 a very well established practice.  And that goes

12 back to the issue of why is PME alone chosen as the

13 standard for comparison?  In the original

14 presentation by the statistician, there was the

15 question of choosing appropriate standards.  And I

16 think we should keep that in the back of our head

17 when we look at all this information and data.

18 From 1948 on, when PME was introduced,

19 Kegel himself recognized the need of using a device

20 to assist and be adjuvant to the PME alone.  And

21 from the very beginning of therapy in this area, a

22 device or perineometer, or some kind of

23 intervention was utilized.  So it has always been a

24 part of established care and standard to use some

25 form of biofeedback method.  It really isn't a new

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1 technology.

2 And we have been given evidence from

3 multiple sources, the Bump study in 1991, Kerri [sic]

4 Bo's study in 1990, and most recently, the

5 Sampselle study, 2000, showing the drawbacks of

6 doing Kegel exercise with just verbal instruction,

7 and I think that was brought up very clearly.

8 In 1992 and 1996 updates, the AHCPR

9 guidelines for treatment was more developed, and

10 this was a panel of experts in the field, who came

11 up with these guidelines and recommendations, and

12 they came up with these guidelines based on strong

13 scientific evidence, rated their evidence, and this

14 is akin to our task set before us today.  Their job

15 as panel of experts back in 1996 was very similar

16 to what we are being charged with today.  And they

17 felt that based on their review and the strength of

18 evidence, they've made recommendations regarding

19 pelvic muscle rehabilitation and bladder inhibition

20 using biofeedback therapy as recommendations for

21 treatment of these patient groups.  They

22 specifically did not sort out biofeedback and

23 remove it from the formula.  And I think there is

24 something flawed with that whole question of taking

25 away a therapy that's always been part of the

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1 treatment from the very beginning.

2 The technology assessment has come to

3 certain conclusions.  I think in our discussions,

4 we can critically analyze the data.  Like they

5 said, the AHCPR guidelines specifically did not

6 address the issue of whether the addition of

7 biofeedback to PME is more effective than PME

8 alone, and I think it specifically was avoided as

9 to not take that out of therapeutic treatment

10 modalities.  We have to treat people, because we

11 treat people in this area with multimodality

12 treatment.

13 Since then though, the question has come

14 up and been the focus of several evidence based

15 reviews.  In de Kruif and van Wegen, one in 1996;

16 Berghmans in 1998; and the meta-analysis by

17 Weatherall in 1999, as well as the current

18 technology assessment, all of them with varying

19 conclusions.

20 I would like to make a point too.  This

21 panel was initially charged with addressing the

22 issue of efficacy of biofeedback as an incontinence

23 intervention, and now we are being asked to compare

24 it as an adjunct therapy to PME versus PME alone.

25 Now the question is asking about efficacy as an

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1 adjunct to a therapy, and this is an important

2 distinction when looking at the literature.  And

3 when we reviewed this before we came here, we may

4 not have looked at the literature in quite the same

5 way as this nuance brings up.  But for the question

6 at hand, those studies comparing PME alone to

7 biofeedback and PME are the ones we really need to

8 critically review.

9 And we have to look at them for

10 comparison of groups, methodology, and outcome

11 measures.  And while analyzing the data, we need to

12 keep in mint that the PME alone groups show

13 variability between the studies as to what the

14 treatment intervention was in those groups, and

15 consist of interventions other than PMEs, and that

16 may influence the results of the data.  And that

17 brings me back to the issue of, did we select an

18 appropriate standard to compare it to?

19 So that -- in one of the presentations

20 by Dr. Perry, he gave us some slides and I think we

21 critically need to look at those, but he brought

22 out some of the potential information about

23 methodology, about the PME alone group.

24 So, I thought that was a good launching

25 point now for us to open up discussion.

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1 DR.  GARBER:  Thank you, Lisa.  Arnie?

2 DR.  EPSTEIN:  Even without the prompting

3 by Lisa, I was thinking the same thing, that the

4 final slide you brought out, you actually brought

5 out two, but the final one was particularly

6 interesting to me, where you talked about the 25

7 percent, 50 to 60, and 55 to 70 percent, and he had

8 very little time when he did that, and I wonder if

9 we could give him two minutes to get him to expand

10 on where those numbers came from and the strength

11 of the studies behind them?

12 DR. PERRY:  I didn't really get the

13 question.

14 DR. GARBER:  I think Dr. Epstein is

15 asking if you can show us the last slide, is that

16 correct, or the second to the last?

17 MS. SMITH:  He means this one, the

18 levels of PME where you compared the written

19 instruction from Sampselle, Berghmans in '96, and

20 Burgio, where you had 27 percent, then 51 to 60

21 percent.

22 DR. HILL:  We have it in our handout.

23 MS. SMITH:  We have it in our handout.

24 DR. EPSTEIN:  Yeah, and I was really --

25 I have the handout and I have the visual memory,

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1 and I didn't have the Sampselle study that I can

2 recall beforehand.  It's partly because of that but

3 also partially because I think it makes potentially

4 an interesting case, and I wonder if you can take

5 the talking points that you would have used five

6 minutes for but were forced not to, and now take

7 them.

 

8 DR. GARBER:  Not five minutes though.

9 Let's keep this brief.

 

10 DR. PERRY:  The Sampselle study is

11 especially interesting because they avoid all the

12 problems with contamination and really did do PMEs

13 alone.  They just had a handout, here it is, a

14 one-pager and you know, this is your education.

15 And I'm amazed, you know, really the differences

16 between us all come down to one thing.  TEC wants

17 to use a rigid definition of biofeedback and a

18 catchall definition of PME alone.  It's interesting

19 because it was sort of the other way around back in

20 the guidelines where they used surgery, clear;

21 drugs, clear; everything else is behavioral,

22 including stim.  Does that answer?  So, you have a

23 really rigid category of biofeedback, and a

24 catchall category of everything else counts as PME

25 alone, and when you do that, you get nonsignificant

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2 DR. LANDY:  A comment I'd like to make.

3 I think the importance of sorting out the PME alone

4 group is that if it truly is an intervention, then

5 what you're looking at is the result of an

6 intervention, as opposed to how we clinically use

7 the descriptive term of PME alone.  And when

8 clinically applied, most clinicians in this area

9 would do some form of verbal instruction, written

10 instruction sheet and send the patient home, and

11 that's truly what the studies are not comparing.

12 The studies are comparing one intervention to

13 another, so that PME alone is not really a good

14 standard.  The best standard we have are looking at

15 the studies with, comparing a waiting list control

16 group, because that most represents what we see

17 clinically, because those are people who on their

18 own, at some point in their association with a

19 physician were taught or told to do Kegel

20 exercises, or they read it in a magazine article,

21 and that's what they're doing on their own.  And

22 that best represents the result we get with PME

23 alone clinically.

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The full transcripts are available on the hcfa.gov/quality website, or incontinet.com.

 

 


4. Dr. Zendle's Testimony

 

Following are the comments of Dr.  Zendle at the Incontinence hearings in Baltimore.  As mentioned in a previous post, Dr. Zendle was one of two panel members asked to "review" the TEC report and prepare a recommendation to the full panel.

 

Due to a lack of clarity in the printed program, Dr. Zendle made these remarks in the middle of the HCFA/BCBS presentation.  Taken by themselves, his remarks do not constitute much of a "review" of the TEC report.  He first praises the AHCPR Guidelines (which TEC rejected), and then agrees with TEC that "there isn't enough evidence".  Then he complains about the lack of research in this area.  Apparently he isn't aware that there isn't a lot of money to be made in behavioral treatment of incontinence, and that the potential for profit -- big profit -- is what drives research. 

 

8 DR.  ZENDLE:  Well, this has been a very

9 interesting day.  It's hard to believe we have

10 already been here for six hours; it's gone pretty

11 quickly.  I want to thank and congratulate the

12 presenters and the organizers of this.  I've

13 learned a lot.

14 After today -- you know, I went over the

15 questions myself beforehand and I have listened

16 very carefully to what people had to say.  And I

17 have no problem accepting the AHCPR '96 guidelines,

18 and I have no problem agreeing with the clinicians

19 who feel that some patients do better with feedback

20 and PMEs than with the exercises alone.  And I

21 actually think it should be made available to those

22 patients who are so identified, especially if a

23 guideline is being followed that tells you which

24 patients it works best on and which form of

25 biofeedback and what the regimen should be.

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2 assessment that there isn't sufficient evidence,

3 scientific evidence of sufficient quality really,

4 to conclude that adding biofeedback to the

5 exercises is better or not better than doing the

6 exercises alone.  And I guess the only other point

7 I would make is that the statistical definition of

8 what's enough evidence isn't really a matter of

9 opinion, it's a scientific matter, that science has

10 already made agreements as to what is

11 scientifically relevant, and I don't think this

12 meets the magnitude of that.

13 It does leave me with one important

14 question, though, and that's why hasn't there been

15 more research in this area?  It's not like this is

16 a rare problem, and it's not like these are mild

17 symptoms.  This is a common problem that is a major

18 life disruption not only for the patient, but for

19 families and for society.  And it's shocking to me

20 actually that there are so few patients that have

21 been looked at in a rigorous way and therefore, we

22 can't reach conclusions with statistical validity.

23 And I'm not sure who's to blame for that, but it's

24 just a question that I'm left with and frustrated

25 with.

 

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See the full transcript on the hcfa.gov or incontinet.com websites for proper context.

 

 


5. The Slide They Wanted to See

 

Previous comments in this series mentioned a request by Dr. Epstein for elaboration of a slide I had presented showing the increasing levels of effectiveness of adding various interventions to "PME Alone".

 

Although my handout containing the content of the slides was actually given to the stenographer, the transcript as published gives only the verbal presentation, omitting the visual presentation that was the basis for that verbal presentation.

 

Since each of us had only eight minutes to present our testimony, most people made the same assumption that I did, namely, that we should use our limited verbal opportunity to elaborate, rather than repeat, our visual presentations.

 

But the result is that the very precise and legal official transcript is of limited value, because it does not include the words that were presented visually at the hearing.  The reader can only guess as to what the audience was reading while the speaker was speaking.

 

(IncontiNet.com has already published, as a public service, all the testimony of expert witnesses that was submitted for publication.  See the opening paragraphs at: http://www.incontinet.com/home.htm for details and links.)

 

The following is the text of the slide that Drs. Epstein and Landy asked me to elaborate.

 

Levels of Pelvic Muscle Exercise

Written instruction alone

27%

Sampselle 2000

ADD vaginal palpation
and verbal feedback

51% to 60%

Berghmans 1996
Burgio 1986

ADD EMG testing

54% to 77%

Burns 1993 
Wells 1991

ADD formal biofeedback training

80% 94%

Burgio 1998 1986;

Sussett, Kegel, etc.

 

Commentary: The numbers represent the percentage reduction in symptoms reported by the noted researchers for the intervention added beyond "mere verbal instruction alone", which is best exemplified in Sampselle (March, 2000).

 

Sampselle et al reported on the success of a genuine "PME alone" intervention -- they gave subjects a written handout describing how to do PMEs.  They had no confounding interventions, such as therapist's manual palpation of the pelvic muscles and verbal feedback of success.  It was a case of PURE "PME Alone", and the results were dismal -- 27% symptom change -- barely above the expected placebo effect for therapeutic attention.

 

The Wells 1991 report got the best results for "PME Alone" (77%) -- because she did much more than PME Alone.  She actually "tested" subjects' pelvic muscles with an EMG biofeedback device, before "PME Alone" and every month thereafter for six months -- a total of *7 EMG sessions*.

 

TEC 2000 failed to notice this important fact, and as a result, erroneously ascribed to "PME Alone" greater success than it deserved.

 

The original slide is visible in a PowerPoint presentation referenced on the IncontiNet home page.

 

 


6. Burgio and Burton -- NO PMEs at all!

 

We have previously called attention to the BC/BS-TEC error in considering Burton et al as an instance of "PME Alone vs.  PME plus biofeedback" in the treatment of Urge Incontinence.  The vast majority (11 of 14, or 79%) of Burton's control group was given "education"; but only 3 of the 14 (21%), those who had stress incontinence, were given instruction in pelvic muscle exercise. 

 

The "education" resembles modern bladder retraining:

 

"Patients...(were) taught to respond to an urge sensation by: relaxing; tightening their urethral sphincter; relaxing their abdominal musculature, and, when the urge passes, walking slowly to a lavatory to void." (p.  695)

 

There is no way that can be construed as a form of "pelvic muscle exercise alone". 

 

(One has to read the text carefully and compare the text with the tables to discern precisely who got what. The issue is not spelled out clearly because the purpose of the 1988 research was not address the issue TEC tried to study 12 years later.)

 

In any case, Burton was invoked as an example (the only example) of a controlled study of PME on Urge Incontinence, and NONE of Burton's Urge patients got ANY PME at all!

 

In reviewing the TEC report yet one more time, we note that a similar mistake was made by TEC in the classification of Burgio et al, 1986 ("The role of biofeedback..."). 

 

TEC says:

 

"The nonrandomized trial by Burgio et al.  (1986) assigned 24 patients to PME alone or PME plus biofeedback after stratifying by age and frequency of incontinence.  The authors reported a significantly greater percent improvement in incontinent episodes for patients treated with PME plus biofeedback (76% improvement versus 51%, p < 0.05)."

 

But Burgio et al, 1986 says:

 

"This study examined the effectiveness of teaching pelvic floor exercises with the use of bladder-sphincter biofeedback compared with training with VERBAL FEEDBACK BASED ON VAGINAL PALPATION in 24 women..." (Abstract, emphasis added).

 

Since the point is made in the abstract, TEC didn't even have to read the article itself to realize that this study did NOT qualify for inclusion in a field that was supposed to be limited (albeit arbitrarily) to "PME Alone vs. PME+BFB". 

 

Burgio clearly states:

 

"Verbal feedback training consists of instructing the patient to squeeze the vaginal muscles around the examiner's fingers and providing her with verbal performance feedback."  (Abstract)

 

The Biofeedback technique of Burgio is well known, being the subject a documentary film by NIA in 1984.  Burgio herself provides substantial verbal feedback when helping the patient to interpret and understand the tracings of the polygraph.

 

The study showed that patients did much better when they were given instantaneous biofeedback with verbal interpretation instead of delayed, relayed feedback from a human being alone.

 

In addition, it seems plausible that many of the women in this study were slightly uncomfortable performing exercises with another woman's hand inside their vaginas, thus reducing the effectiveness of the technique. 

 

In any case, it is worth noting that this kind of "verbal feedback" is more labor intensive than "PME with biofeedback", since it requires a much higher level of clinician experience.  In other words, biofeedback costs about the same as manual-verbal feedback therapy, but delivers 50% more results. 

 

 


7. Levels of Evidence and Who Decides?

 

1.  What happened to the AHCPR Guidelines?

 

Many people have noted that the famous AHCPR Guidelines on Incontinence (1992 & 1996) were not distributed to the April 12-13 Panel discussing Incontinence.  Both Diane Smith and Lisa Landy, guest members of the panel, remarked about this omission explicitly, and several of the speakers mentioned the Guidelines as having shaped and established the accepted standards of treatment in this country. 

 

The omission is complex.  None of the people involved in the 2/21/00 committee report, nor the 3/1/00 Executive Committee meeting, nor the 4/17/00 "Interim Recommendations" had any direct awareness of incontinence treatments or research and practice in incontinence.  They were reaching for broad principles that could be applied to ALL areas of medicine. 

 

These people, mostly physicians, attempted to bring the latest standards and values in medical research into a broad guide for Medicare-related research in the new Millennium.  The latest trends emphasize "evidence-based-medicine", which had not been invented when the AHCPR guidelines were prepared and published.

 

So the AHCPR guidelines are considered "primitive" by today's new standards.  Indeed, they are no longer "politically correct".  They have become an embarrassment to the medical establishment. 

 

This is clear in item 4 in the "Discussion Report" of 2/21/00, which states: (Note the omission of AHCPR, [now "AHRQ"])

 

"The standard of excellence for the evidence report should be the best work in the private sector (e.g., Blue Cross-Blue Shield), by professional organizations (e.g., ACP-ASIM), and for other Federally sponsored panels (e.g., the Evidence-based Practice Centers technical support for the U.S.  Preventive Services Task Force)."